Talk:Staff and contractors

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Should it be noted that Jimmy is indeed not a staff member, and that his omission is not an oversight? I'm sure most viewers (and contributors) have the impression that he is indeed a WMF staff member. -- Zanimum 12:52, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Talk at Meta?
Shouldn't this talk page contain a link to a talk page on Meta, where its content can be discussed? Although this page is probably not "written by the community" I think we could provide some useful input at times. // habj 17:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Rename page?
I'm not really sure why this page is called "Current staff"; I suggest renaming it to simply "Staff". Any other opinions?--Eloquence 21:39, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, it sounds better and will also look better at the same time :) E 07:14, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Fellowship recipients
I think Fellowship recipients ought to be moved to a separate page. Calling them "staff" seems odd and wrong. Thoughts? --MZMcBride 02:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)


 * For now, we've created a Fellowship Recipient Section to this page to list Steven Walling who is being categorized during his year with us as an employee. We're blogging about the recipients and adding their announcements and links to the feed/streams on Identi.ca and Twitter.  --Daniel Phelps 22:07, 8 October 2010 (UTC) (talk • contribs)


 * I agree. Also, the UX section ought to be merged into the Tech section (and some positions updated) since there are no longer any "UX programs". guillom 16:06, 8 October 2010 (UTC)


 * There is some reorganization to the Tech depts courtesy of the Strategic Plan. We're working on a way to clarify this new organization on the Staff page and should have that updated shortly (within the next 2-3 weeks). --Daniel Phelps 22:07, 8 October 2010 (UTC) (talk • contribs)

Wikimedia Foundation contractors
Should the "See also" section include a link to Wikimedia Foundation contractors? --MZMcBride 06:57, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Missing individuals?
Karen Hyun? http://identi.ca/notice/52969121 --MZMcBride 02:46, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Fellowship recipients as well: http://identi.ca/notice/53260114 --MZMcBride 02:48, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Edits at Template talk:Staff and contractors
Hi folks - I've made some edits to the staff and contractors template talk page... Thanks JayWalsh 01:18, 2 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Said in such quiet desperation... :-) --MZMcBride 01:35, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Box at the bottom of the page
Currently, the box that is placed at the bottom of this page says (my underline): All images are available under the Creative Commons Attribution License or the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. For licensing and other information about any of the images seen on this page, please go to Wikimedia Commons and click on the particular image you would like more information about. Thanks! I am somehow puzzled as to how to find those images from between over 13 million others basing on just how they look like... Surely there is an easier way to find them? :-) odder 20:18, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi odder, if you click on that Commons link you will find a category page that consists of only those images. You still have to look, but it's a lot less than 13 million ;) heather walls (talk) 04:02, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Collapsing
Can we please, please, please get rid of the collapsing? It hides the staff which is supposedly what the page is about, it makes impossible to look for names with a search in the page and it requires a bazillion clicks (even more now that for some reason there's no longer that already well hidden enough "expand all" links). --Nemo 09:04, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Is there a way to "expand all"? Rjd0060 (talk) 22:53, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
 * There was, it seems to have disappeared though, not sure if it's something to do with the edits Krinkle early this week though. The   Helpful   One  01:26, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * It seems more likely to do with the jQuery upgrade from earlier this week. The page is now throwing a JavaScript error (viewable in your browser's JavaScript console). I'll ping Krinkle about this. --MZMcBride (talk) 03:59, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. As this is probably not going to be fixed overnight, in the meanwhile I've removed the collapsing. I hope I've not introduced new errors! --Nemo 10:46, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Krinkle fixed this up now.
 * You can append ?showall=1 (https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff_and_contractors?showall=1) to see the uncollapsed version on-load as well. I kind of agree that the page looks better without the collapsing, but I know that it was a major goal of the redesign to make the page less overwhelming (and I don't have any better ideas for doing so), so I'm not going to fight about it. --MZMcBride (talk) 18:39, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I really like all the people in that leftmost column, and I don't think any of them want to look like the "level boss". There's something really wrong about this layout.  Honestly, I don't even know what the rubric would be to be a big enough boss to appear so left-justified :P  What is the purpose of displaying the directors here, are they the first line for communication?  ... not everything has to be an organogram ;)  Just so that I'm not offering criticism and no suggestions, I would prefer that the collapsed departments have a short summary along the lines of: Contact: wikistuff-l; Home page: wmfwiki/Blarghdept; Director: Vale Dictorian; Roster: 2^N employees & a lonely contractor, see more -> AWight (talk) 09:31, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Show, don't tell. :-) You can edit here. Improve the page. This is a wiki, after all. If you need a testing ground, make your own. You know how. --MZMcBride (talk) 09:35, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I believe the intention behind this was to at least indicate who the heads of department are because previously it was just a jumbled mess. The page currently functions as a rough organisational chart - looking at Engineering for example, Erik is VP, then Rob is Director of Platform, Terry for Features, CT Woo for Technical Operation etc - so the "head" of that sub department is first. Other than that everyone else is simply sorted in alphabetical order, but I'd be interested to see your improvements. Like MZ said, this is a wiki, so please feel free to edit to improve - if there are any problems, your edits can always be undone. The  helpful  one  13:02, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Table of contents
It really is quite helpful to have a table of contents box on this page. Perhaps Nemo was right. With some work, inclusion of a table of contents box could be made to work here. Removing the numbering, matching the page styling in terms of background color and border, figuring out placement/collapsibility on the page, etc. The hierarchical view is helpful, though. --MZMcBride (talk) 04:00, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Of course I'm right. There's a reason if TOC is the default in MediaWiki. However I won't argue for this any longer, I have User:Nemo_bis/Staff_and_contractors bookmarked and that egotistically works for me. --Nemo 07:17, 28 January 2014 (UTC)