User talk:Philippe (WMF)

Sidebar edit
Hi. This edit doesn't make much sense. You've moved the "Donate" link outside the "Support" section and into the "About Wikimedia" section. If there are issues with collapsed sections, those should be filed in Bugzilla or addressed to the appropriate party in order to reach a proper resolution. Moving things around to avoid Vector's stupidity shouldn't be necessary. --MZMcBride 19:37, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * For me, "Support" is automatically uncollapsed by default, so I'm not sure why Philippe is seeing it as collapsed.  Cbrown1023   talk   02:17, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Odd... we checked during a meeting, and it was collapsed by default. But I'll double check and if it's not, I'll move that back.  Philippe (WMF) 17:48, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Template:2010/Donate-now6 - ILS
Hi!

I'm sorry if i messed up something at Template:2010/Donate-now6. If i understand correctly, we need to have our currency there. How can we add it? --Amir E. Aharoni 18:34, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Fundraising links
Currently Fundraising and Donate have different content, and the homepage links to both. Could you make the pages the same, or consistently point the links on Home to the current preferred version? Thanks,--Eloquence 21:56, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep. Philippe (WMF) 22:45, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, but what about the localized pages, as Сделать_пожертвование (used in Russian interface)? Also "Donation" links in Russian-language wikis linked to Global_Support/ru directly. Must be changed to WMFJA1/RU? --Kaganer 17:41, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Are canged (for Russian project/pages);) --Kaganer 18:20, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * PS: At least DonateLang template (available on Ways_to_Give/en page) should have links to the current fundraising pages.--Kaganer 17:41, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * PPS: Maybe Holding/JA1/en also should be redirected to WMFJA1/en? --Kaganer 17:41, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you - he
the page is ready (no other changes) --Itzike 11:21, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Itzike - if you're speaking of this page: Fundraising_2010/thank_you/he  then it's not quite ready.  That appears to be an Israeli version of the page, which is great and would be fine for use at /IL.  However, we still need a version of the page for non-Israelis.  The one I linked above appears to have a donation link to WM-IL, which wouldn't be correct for non-Israelis.  I'm going to reset the status to proofreading so it doesn't get accidentally published.  Philippe (WMF) 11:50, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * the text is 100% translation of the English version. you can just fix the donation link to your correct WMF landing page. --Itzike 11:59, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I'm still not sure that's correct. For instance, the PS seems to address events in Israel?  Philippe (WMF) 12:10, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * How you want us to separate the IL page and the HE page so your team could use it? The meta have only one version of the page. --Itzike 12:13, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, chapters are responsible for building their own localized pages throughout this fundraiser - have been since the very first landing page of the year.  We provided access to the Foundation wiki so that you could do that.  Then, you only need to submit to us one version: the non-chapter version, where the text should exactly match the source text.  It looks like we already created the Israeli landing page from what you gave us, so all we need is the meta version.  Philippe (WMF) 12:22, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Fix. enjoy :) --Itzike 13:11, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Philippe (WMF) 13:13, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Sustaining corporate donors
Why was Sustaining corporate donors deleted? --MZMcBride 22:52, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Becuase they were moved to Template:Benefactors. :)  Philippe (WMF) 22:53, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Some of the listed companies were moved back to Template:Benefactors, you mean? I don't see a reason for the older revisions to be deleted. Is there one? And the current page, if it's dead/replaced, should be a redirect to Benefactors, right? --MZMcBride 22:55, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, some of the listed companies (those who had not expired) were sent back to the template. The reason for the older revisions to be deleted is, quite simply, because I was asked by my boss to delete the page while he was reorganizing things slightly.  And yes, the page should be a redirect, but I haven't gotten there yet.  I've been answering these talk page notes. :)  Philippe (WMF) 22:57, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

User:Jmayall
Hi. Who is User:Jmayall? I looked at Staff, Wikimedia Foundation contractors, and https://identi.ca/wikimediaatwork, but didn't see anything matching the name. --MZMcBride 05:27, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi MZ. Jmayall is Jeanie Mayall - she's a generalist in the HR department.  She was announced here.  I'm not certain why she isn't on any of the usual haunts, but I'll ask and hopefully have an answer.  Philippe (WMF) 06:51, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Work with us
Hi. I reverted your archiving of Talk:Work with us. Most pages here aren't ever archived as they don't build up enough threads to warrant it. Or if they do, it takes years. In this case, there was activity... today(!) in both threads. And there are only two threads on the page, so I can't imagine why it would need to be archived already. Archiving should also be done with copying and pasting to keep page histories intact. Thank you. --MZMcBride (talk) 23:56, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Tax info on Home
Hmmm. Regarding this edit, the EIN in particular looks really tacky. Surely there's a more appropriate place for this.

And I think the headquartered part is a bit... Wikimedia is a global movement. --MZMcBride (talk) 05:20, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm inclined to largely revert your edit and simply make "nonprofit" a link to Tax Deductibility/en. The "501(c)(3)" bit is already mentioned on Home, this tax info is irrelevant to nearly all visitors and is already covered elsewhere, and the new language is just generally problematic and awkward. --MZMcBride (talk) 05:31, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I hope you won't revert it. As you may have guessed from the edit summary, it was a legal requirement from the general counsel.  Frankly, it's one that I don't feel strongly  about but I've seen the advice from counsel to him, and then his directive saying that it has to be there.  Please talk to him before reverting it.  Philippe (WMF) (talk) 09:03, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, I e-mailed Geoff. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:24, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks, MZ. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 22:45, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Admin process
Dear Philippe, Happy New Year!

What's the current process for appointing [non-staff] admins? How about a section on Babel for proposals, that any bureaucrat can act on? There are lots of admins in theory but few are log active.

Could we include "posting a userpage" as part of the admin-creation process? Lgruwell, Jlohr, Jmayall and JTrias need userpages.

Warmly, Sj (talk) 05:13, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Sam,
 * The process is lightweight - express a need and show a use case and that you have clue, and I hand the bits over.
 * Because of the realities of raw html on this wiki and the fact that it is the public face of the WMF (the closest thing we have to a corporate website), I'd be hesitant to set up a process that's doesn't include at least a staff-side sign-off. However, we've been notoriously generous with that sign-off.
 * But luckily, I believe that Jay is doing some real thinking about how to manage this wiki in a scalable and sustainable way, so I'll ask him what he thinks.
 * As far as userpages, I couldn't agree more and will followup with those folks. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 09:28, 4 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Hello Philippe, I don't have particular opinions here but I was a bit confused: I had misread that "staff-side sign-off" as a restriction of +sysop to staff members. More careful reading (or the section below) shows that's not what you meant, but if the final rubberstamping belongs to staff then I think you should just remove bureaucrat status to non-staff: it's not like we make heavy use of bots or import here, so in practice that's the only function of bureaucrats, and ensuring that all bureaucrats really are bureaucrats would allow us to be less convolute and use clear, simple guidelines (like Sj's "that any bureaucrat can act on"). --Nemo 15:19, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Adminship for Thehelpfulone
Hi. I'd like to recommend Thehelpfulone for adminship on this wiki. I believe you're already familiar with his work here, but if you need me to elaborate on this request, I'm happy to. :-) --MZMcBride (talk) 22:46, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Ping. --MZMcBride (talk) 00:19, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've been out ill, and haven't had a chance to look at this. I don't have an issue with it.  Let me just double check a couple of things, and I'll get it going.  Philippe (WMF) (talk) 17:22, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Eep, sorry about that. Illness has been going all around the country, with a particular focus on cities, of course. I don't know anyone at my office who hasn't been sick at least once in the past two months. I hope you're feeling better now. :-) Thanks for looking into this. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:11, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Just a note for the record that we made him an admin. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 08:24, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Strange blocks
Hi. You made JTrias an administrator on this wiki. I'm concerned he or she doesn't fully understand how to administer a MediaWiki wiki:

Can you take a look at this, please? And perhaps nudge this user to make a user page? --MZMcBride (talk) 00:23, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * As soon as I noticed these blocks I sent Julie an email to follow up. Turns out Brandon and Amit were on a list of accounts tagged to be blocked so she's checking it out (and I also made her aware that the expiration means that the system automatically unblocks the account after 2 hours and so can login). The  helpful  one  00:54, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi - I have also spoken with her about this. It's just a mistake.  She's been talked to.  :)  Philippe (WMF) (talk) 17:22, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Disabling $wgBlockDisablesLogin here
Hi Philippe, after some discussion at User:Legoktm/Liberation regarding this setting (which is primarily intended for private wikis), I've filed a bug request to disable this setting as 44473. If you could comment there it would be appreciated. Thanks, Legoktm (talk) 17:49, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletions
Hi. I'm working on cleaning up this wiki a bit. I've proposed the following pages for deletion. I'm notifying you as you're listed in the page history. Without objection, the pages listed below will be deleted in about a month. Thanks for all of your work here. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:11, 16 March 2013 (UTC)


 * User:Philippe (WMF)/Test2
 * Holding/Test1/en/us
 * WMFJA060/en/CA
 * WMFI JATY 001/he
 * 2010 Paypal
 * Holding/JA1/UA/uk
 * Holding/JA1/uk/UA
 * Holding/JA1/da/DK

C&D letter to WikiPR
Philippe, are you planning to fix the confusion between Wikipedia and Wikimedia visible in that letter? odder (talk) 09:29, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * It appears that Patrick Gunn wrote that letter, not Philippe or Matthew R. Given that the letter has presumably already been sent, I'm not sure there's much to be done now, except perhaps educate Mr. Gunn. --MZMcBride (talk) 18:06, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The letter was written on behalf of the Foundation, so I'm assuming they had a look at it before it was sent. They should have noticed and fixed that confusion. odder (talk) 18:15, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * While "they" did, I was not part of that they. MZ is correct - Patrick wrote it, but while working with Luis and/or Geoff.  Not I.  Philippe (WMF) (talk) 20:53, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * It doesn't change the fact that someone from the Foundation should fix the confusion. odder (talk) 21:10, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * if you came to me with bad code, I would point you to engineering and send them a note. I've done the same thing here... Sent legal a note and pointed you to them. I personally am not going to make the fix. It's not my area of expertise. I recommend that you speak with the relevant party. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 21:19, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Re: recent account creation
Hi. This is trivial, but the most recent convention for usernames would've made it "TFlanagan (WMF)" instead of "Tflanagan (WMF)" (cf. Special:Log/newusers). The whole naming scheme is a mess. :-( --MZMcBride (talk) 03:13, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree. The naming convention is a disaster, and I say that as someone whose name is out of convention. :-)  In the interest of not making staff remember a dozen different versions of their usernames, based on when their account were set up on which wikis, and what naming convention was en vogue then, my typical process is to ask them their username on the public sites and match it.  Therefore, he's User:Tflanagan_(WMF) on enwiki, so I matched it here.  Philippe (WMF) (talk) 03:24, 20 March 2014 (UTC)