Talk:Staff and contractors

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Jimmy Wales

Should it be noted that Jimmy is indeed not a staff member, and that his omission is not an oversight? I'm sure most viewers (and contributors) have the impression that he is indeed a WMF staff member. -- Zanimum 12:52, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Talk at Meta?

Shouldn't this talk page contain a link to a talk page on Meta, where its content can be discussed? Although this page is probably not "written by the community" I think we could provide some useful input at times. // habj 17:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rename page?

I'm not really sure why this page is called "Current staff"; I suggest renaming it to simply "Staff". Any other opinions?--Eloquence 21:39, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, it sounds better and will also look better at the same time :) E 07:14, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fellowship recipients

I think Fellowship recipients ought to be moved to a separate page. Calling them "staff" seems odd and wrong. Thoughts? --MZMcBride 02:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For now, we've created a Fellowship Recipient Section to this page to list Steven Walling who is being categorized during his year with us as an employee. We're blogging about the recipients and adding their announcements and links to the feed/streams on Identi.ca and Twitter. --Daniel Phelps 22:07, 8 October 2010 (UTC) (talkcontribs)[reply]
I agree. Also, the UX section ought to be merged into the Tech section (and some positions updated) since there are no longer any "UX programs". guillom 16:06, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There is some reorganization to the Tech depts courtesy of the Strategic Plan. We're working on a way to clarify this new organization on the Staff page and should have that updated shortly (within the next 2-3 weeks). --Daniel Phelps 22:07, 8 October 2010 (UTC) (talkcontribs)[reply]

Should the "See also" section include a link to m:Wikimedia Foundation contractors? --MZMcBride 06:57, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Missing individuals?

Karen Hyun? http://identi.ca/notice/52969121 --MZMcBride 02:46, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fellowship recipients as well: http://identi.ca/notice/53260114 --MZMcBride 02:48, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi folks - I've made some edits to the staff and contractors template talk page... Thanks JayWalsh 01:18, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Said in such quiet desperation... :-) --MZMcBride 01:35, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Box at the bottom of the page

Currently, the box that is placed at the bottom of this page says (my underline):

All images are available under the Creative Commons Attribution License or the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. For licensing and other information about any of the images seen on this page, please go to Wikimedia Commons and click on the particular image you would like more information about. Thanks!

I am somehow puzzled as to how to find those images from between over 13 million others basing on just how they look like... Surely there is an easier way to find them? :-) odder 20:18, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi odder, if you click on that Commons link you will find a category page that consists of only those images. You still have to look, but it's a lot less than 13 million ;) heather walls (talk) 04:02, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Collapsing

Can we please, please, please get rid of the collapsing? It hides the staff which is supposedly what the page is about, it makes impossible to look for names with a search in the page and it requires a bazillion clicks (even more now that for some reason there's no longer that already well hidden enough "expand all" links). --Nemo 09:04, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a way to "expand all"? Rjd0060 (talk) 22:53, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There was, it seems to have disappeared though, not sure if it's something to do with the edits Krinkle early this week though. The Helpful One 01:26, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It seems more likely to do with the jQuery upgrade from earlier this week. The page is now throwing a JavaScript error (viewable in your browser's JavaScript console). I'll ping Krinkle about this. --MZMcBride (talk) 03:59, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. As this is probably not going to be fixed overnight, in the meanwhile I've removed the collapsing. I hope I've not introduced new errors! --Nemo 10:46, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Krinkle fixed this up now.
You can append ?showall=1 (https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff_and_contractors?showall=1) to see the uncollapsed version on-load as well. I kind of agree that the page looks better without the collapsing, but I know that it was a major goal of the redesign to make the page less overwhelming (and I don't have any better ideas for doing so), so I'm not going to fight about it. --MZMcBride (talk) 18:39, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I really like all the people in that leftmost column, and I don't think any of them want to look like the "level boss". There's something really wrong about this layout. Honestly, I don't even know what the rubric would be to be a big enough boss to appear so left-justified :P What is the purpose of displaying the directors here, are they the first line for communication? ... not everything has to be an organogram ;) Just so that I'm not offering criticism and no suggestions, I would prefer that the collapsed departments have a short summary along the lines of: Contact: wikistuff-l; Home page: wmfwiki/Blarghdept; Director: Vale Dictorian; Roster: 2^N employees & a lonely contractor, see more -> AWight (talk) 09:31, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Show, don't tell. :-) You can edit here. Improve the page. This is a wiki, after all. If you need a testing ground, make your own. You know how. --MZMcBride (talk) 09:35, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I believe the intention behind this was to at least indicate who the heads of department are because previously it was just a jumbled mess. The page currently functions as a rough organisational chart - looking at Engineering for example, Erik is VP, then Rob is Director of Platform, Terry for Features, CT Woo for Technical Operation etc - so the "head" of that sub department is first. Other than that everyone else is simply sorted in alphabetical order, but I'd be interested to see your improvements. Like MZ said, this is a wiki, so please feel free to edit to improve - if there are any problems, your edits can always be undone. Thehelpfulone 13:02, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It's fine to have some heads on the left, and as long as that's the org structure we have, it makes sense to be honest about it. But let's get rid of the collapsing, so the staff page actually... lists our staff. Any arguments against? AWight (talk) 17:51, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have no problem with the collapsing but it needs to be more intuitive. "See the team" is not conspicuous enough; this could probably be fixed easily.--Jasper Deng (talk) 22:58, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Table of contents

It really is quite helpful to have a table of contents box on this page. Perhaps Nemo was right. With some work, inclusion of a table of contents box could be made to work here. Removing the numbering, matching the page styling in terms of background color and border, figuring out placement/collapsibility on the page, etc. The hierarchical view is helpful, though. --MZMcBride (talk) 04:00, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Of course I'm right. There's a reason if TOC is the default in MediaWiki. However I won't argue for this any longer, I have User:Nemo_bis/Staff_and_contractors bookmarked and that egotistically works for me. --Nemo 07:17, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The absence of TOC and the decrese in semantics of the headers seems to get more problematic: now we have to maintain separate pages like Org chart for links to sections, really? --Nemo 03:59, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Image aspect ratio consistency

$ curl -s "https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff_and_contractors" | grep "<img" | grep width | perl -p -i -e 's/^.+<img alt="(.+?)".+?width="(.+?)".+$/\2 \1/' | sort -n | perl -p -i -e 's/^[^\d].+//' | uniq

79 Dan Higgins
83 Jake Orlowitz
98 Chase Pettet
116 Bahodir Mansurov
117 Samir Elsharbaty
127 Filippo Giunchedi
130 Jonathan Morgan
131 Juli Matthews of Swagbot
131 Ryan Kaldari
133 Erik Zachte
134 S Page
136 Yuvaraj Pandian
138 Andrew Bogott
139 Faidon Liambotis
139 Prateek Saxena
140 Aaron Halfaker
140 Aaron Schulz
140 Abigail Ripstra
140 Adam Baso
140 Adam Roses Wight
140 Adele Vrana
140 Alex Stinson
140 Alex Wang
140 Alexandros Kosiaris
140 Amir Aharoni
140 Amy Vossbrinck
140 Andre Klapper
140 Andrew Garrett
140 Andrew Otto
140 Anna Koval
140 Anna Lantz
140 Anna Stillwell
140 Anne Gomez
140 Antoine Musso
140 Arda Elmas
140 Ariel Glenn
140 Arthur Richards
140 Asaf Bartov
140 Brad Jorsch
140 Brandon Black
140 Brion Vibber
140 Bryan Davis
140 C. Scott Ananian
140 Caitlin Cogdill
140 Caitlin Virtue
140 Carolynne Schloeder
140 Chad Horohoe
140 Chip Deubner
140 Chris Johnson
140 Chris McMahon
140 Chris Steipp
140 Daisy Chen
140 Dan Andreescu
140 Dan Foy
140 Dan Garry
140 Daniel DeJarnatt
140 Daniel Duvall
140 Danny Horn
140 Dario Taraborelli
140 David Chan
140 Dennis Porter
140 Dmitry Brant
140 Doreen Dunican
140 Ed Sanders
140 Edward Galvez
140 Elena Hernandez
140 Elena Tonkovidova
140 Ellery Wulczyn
140 Ellie Young
140 Emily Blanchard
140 Erica Litrenta
140 Fabrice Florin
140 Floor Koudijs
140 Gabriel Wicke
140 Gergő Tisza
140 Globey
140 Greg Grossmeier
140 Guillaume Paumier
140 Haitham Shammaa
140 Heather Walls
140 Howie Fung
140 Jacob Rogers
140 Jaime Anstee
140 James Alexander
140 James Douglas
140 James Forrester
140 Jan Eissfeldt
140 Janet Renteria
140 Janice Tud
140 Jared Zimmerman
140 Jeff Gage
140 Jeff Green
140 Jeff Hobson
140 Jessica Robell
140 Joel Krauska
140 Jon Robson
140 Jonathan Curiel
140 Jorge Vargas
140 Kacie Harold
140 Kaity Hammerstein
140 Karen Zwicker
140 Kartik Mistry
140 Katie Horn
140 Katy Love
140 Keegan Peterzell
140 Kevin Leduc
140 Kristen Lans
140 Leila Zia
140 Lene Gillis
140 Limayli Huguet
140 Lynette Logan
140 Maggie Dennis
140 Manprit Brar
140 Marc-André Pelletier
140 Maria O&#39;Neill
140 Mark Bergsma
140 Mark Holmquist
140 Marti Johnson
140 Maryana Pinchuk
140 María Cruz
140 Matt Flaschen
140 Matthias Mullie
140 Max Semenik
140 May Galloway
140 Megan Hernandez
140 Michael Guss
140 Michelle Nguyen
140 Michelle Paulson
140 Moiz Syed
140 Monte Hurd
140 Moriel Schottlender
140 Mukunda Modell
140 Nick Wilson
140 Nik Everett
140 Niklas Laxström
140 Nuria Ruiz
140 Oliver Keyes
140 Patrick Earley
140 Pats Pena
140 Pau Giner
140 Penguin
140 Peter Coombe
140 Philippe Beaudette
140 Quim Gil
140 Rachel Farrand
140 Rachel diCerbo
140 Ralph Torres
140 Renee Bracey Sherman
140 Revertasaurus and Awesome Possum
140 Roan Kattouw
140 Rob Lanphier
140 Rob Moen
140 Robert Miller
140 Rory
140 Rosie Lewis
140 Rummana Yasmeen
140 Runa Bhattacharjee
140 Santhosh Thottingal
140 Sarah Rodlund
140 Sati Houston
140 Sean Pringle
140 Sherah Smith
140 Siebrand Mazeland
140 Siko Bouterse
140 Smriti Gupta
140 Stas Malyshev
140 Stephen LaPorte
140 Subbu Sastry
140 Sucheta Ghoshal
140 Tighe Flanagan
140 Tilman Bayer
140 Tim Starling
140 Toby Negrin
140 Tomasz Finc
140 Tony Le
140 Tracy Beasley
140 Trevor Parscal
140 Vibha Bamba
140 Victor Grigas
140 Victoria Shchepakina
140 Walter Gómez Segura
140 Wikimedia Foundation office camera shy.png
140 Winifred Olliff
140 Yana Welinder
140 Yuri Astrakhan
140 Zack Exley
140 Željko Filipin
165 Erik Möller
165 Gayle Karen Young
165 Geoff Brigham
165 Katherine Maher
165 Lila Tretikov
165 Lisa Seitz-Gruwell
165 Luis Villa
166 Garfield Byrd
166 Sicore, Damon 2014.jpg

There's definitely some room for improvement here. It also looks like we need to fix Damon's alt text. --MZMcBride (talk) 08:43, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]