User talk:Heather (WMF)

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Thehelpfulone 13:34, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:WMF join us button.svg

Hi. I don't really understand the purpose of this image. Wouldn't it be better to create something like this in HTML/CSS? --MZMcBride 02:20, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! i'm not sure what "better" would mean. I did actually create the button as you assert, earlier today, and decided not to use that solution because it didn't set the button off from the "page" enough (in my opinion). Mostly because of the lack of gradient (which I would love to learn how to do). heather walls 02:31, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Better in the sense that using HTML/CSS allows for easier changes to the text, easier localization/internationalization, and it's better for user accessibility. There are other reasons laid out here, though some are not as relevant (page load time won't significantly increase by using an extra image, for example). Unless there's a really compelling reason to use an SVG, you should go with an HTML/CSS solution. --MZMcBride 02:37, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Work with us

Hi. I cleaned up some of your code at Work with us. Tables should generally be avoided if possible. Lists should use HTML list syntax. <br> is not a substitute for using margins/padding. Those are were the key issues. The rest of the issues were largely tweaks/adjustments, I think. --MZMcBride 04:22, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MZ. This is a heads-up that "Work with us" is going to change. I have waited to respond to your previous changes because 1. The page was in a temporary state, and 2. I am very busy and not interested in arguing.

I am taking your code advice into consideration for the new layout. Design of this page belongs to Jorm and Eloquence and myself (this includes "tweaking spacing"), and the content belongs to Matthew and Jay, this is not up for further revision. Please create a discussion for any changes you think would be important but they may not be included based on the needs required.

The Foundation wiki is not like a normal wiki. It's controlled, restricted access, and it's not intended to be freely open to the world to edit. There's a reason for that. The Foundation has a specific goal and purpose with it, and sometimes (unlike on Wikipedia) pages DO have an owner. This is one of those cases.

A Talk page discussion for this type of thing can mitigate a lot of hard feelings, and that's true here as it is on Wikipedia. In both cases, the standard is to gather consensus for changes. The cycle is "BRD", "Bold, Revert, Discuss". You are okay to have "BOLDly" made changes (though it isn't ideal on this particular wiki), but the minute you were reverted, the next correct action is to DISCUSS, not to get into a revert war. I apologize if I did not take up the discuss aspect promptly.

I appreciate your help and advice, but please do not make visual changes to my work without discussing them; changes on these pages created for the Foundation will be reverted.

Thank you. heather walls 04:15, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll respond to this in a bit. Honestly, it sounds like a good portion of it didn't come from you, but if you want to stand behind some of these (incredibly stupid) comments, you're more than welcome to. --MZMcBride 18:17, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]