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::You told me something like of http://www.mozilla.org would be nice (something "clean"). What do others think? [[User:Jd|jd]] [[User_talk:Jd|❂]] 23:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
::You told me something like of http://www.mozilla.org would be nice (something "clean"). What do others think? [[User:Jd|jd]] [[User_talk:Jd|❂]] 23:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I think the same. Go on, please. -- [[User:Akl|Akl]] 22:40, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I think the same. Go on, please. -- [[User:Akl|Akl]] 22:40, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Totally agree. Go ahead. Also arguments on the above around language links are better to be considered much than before. Commons features this already. --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaea]] 10:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

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"Neutral point of view can be realized by juxtaposition of opposite thoughts." -- anonymous


File:Tour de Babel.jpg
Babel tower !
In principium erat verbum

Update requests

or Todo ;-)


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22, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Update requests
  • Sitemap +Benefactors Cs, De, Es, Id
Synch requests
  • Home Ja, Ko, Ro
  • Benefactors; synch to En (need announce on meta TR)

Aphaea 15:22, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

For minor update, use m:Translation requests/quick translation.

Site navigation

Honestly saying Wikimania site has better navigations than us. --- how do you think ? I am stronly ostinated by a thought non-English pages should have two kinds of navigation templates: one for interlang, one for all major pages in that language. But I have no idea what kind of dispositions will be best. (Top, side, or bottom ...) --Aphaea 19:29, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

... and special skin like Wikimania, with some boxes, separated following topics ...--Aphaea 22:29, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • salut ;D i saw a "map site" somewhere, around a corner... mais bon, ce n'est pas le problème . Alvaro

Miscellaneous

Active users I contacted about this: Angela, Anthere, Aphaia, Datrio, Delphine, Jimbo, Kurt Jansson, Michael Snow, Solensean, Suisui, Vipuser.

Ok, it's time to take a break and to sit down at the Babel!

I've edited many pages to fix small things (see below), but above all, I built an inventory of the web site. I think we ought to clean up this wiki or it will be as messy as Meta soon :) There are.. many pages to be deleted, many pages to be categorized, many pages to be enhanced. See my inventory for the details, and also my proposals about some specific points. I asked Angela, Anthere and Michael about the possibility to be admin here, so at least someone (who has time and will) can take care of the website. Basically, I volunteer for the maintenance of the wiki (check wether translations are up to date and monitor Meta related stuff, check that templates are used in the good way, delete orphaned, enhance pages, contact new translators and so on) o/ Just ask :)

Concerning the small things:

  • working on categorization (lang cats, then usual cats by themes)
  • enhanced accessibility by improving the lang templates (can do more, but must be able to edit monobook.css easily)
  • updated/synched with english many French pages
  • and more to come btw :)

It would be great for me to have comment on the inventory, so I know what to do with (almost) each page. Jd 00:48, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it better than it was. But, I have a question. Why can't we link languages just like wikia:? at there, you can link other languages just same as a interwiki link and it is the most natural way to whom uses wikipedia/wikimedia projects. I want to remove those ugly language links from top of the every pages except home.--Suisui 12:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC) I mean, we need [[wikipedia:en:something]] but we dont need [[en:something]] link to wikipedia:en: from here--Suisui 12:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I started something like the Wikia system, for example Category:English and Category:Français. The main category (say, English) gathers all English written pages, and the sub-categories organize those pages within thematic blocks.
One thing we must take into consideration is that many pages are available on English only (or have a poor translation so the English version is useful, or the English version is the official one (policies)). Thus, lang templates are often useful (even if, as you remind me on irc, japanese speakers often speak 日本語 only and are not interested with the English original text :). Translations issues affect old pages but also pages to come, since Meta translation process is freezed for many languages. So throwing away (all or any, don't know yet) lang templates may be an overreaction, IMO. jd  13:38, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Look 'n feel

You've talked about the design some weeks months ago. What do you think of the website looking (a bit more) like a "static" website? I mean, we might get rid of the traditionnal monobook stylesheet and have the wiki wearing a nicer, fancier, smarter skin which would fit both the wiki spirit and more traditionnal needs. I don't think the toolbox and all the edit, historyneeded, as talk pages, blabla stuff is needed by readers, since this wiki is in fact a "legal front", with few updates. If I'm right, we can have MediaWiki to hide those wiki elements to the anonymous users (and have them coming out again for registered contributors who need them to edit pages). If you think a good idea all this is, I can draft out a stylesheet :) Jd 00:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please do, absolutely. And it might be a good idea to limit the pages which should exist in translations to a minimum which can be updated. It shows the foundation in a bad light if more than half of the content of this wiki here is outdated. --Elian 22:39, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You told me something like of http://www.mozilla.org would be nice (something "clean"). What do others think? jd  23:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think the same. Go on, please. -- Akl 22:40, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Totally agree. Go ahead. Also arguments on the above around language links are better to be considered much than before. Commons features this already. --Aphaea 10:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]