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Per the resolution of [[bugzilla:21469|bug 21469]], all (registered) users are now able to edit the MediaWiki namespace. --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] 20:02, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Per the resolution of [[bugzilla:21469|bug 21469]], all (registered) users are now able to edit the MediaWiki namespace. --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] 20:02, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

== TransWiki ==

Hello,

I am wondering, the WMF sites supports the transwiki function but is there a special reason why we just copy paste the translations to here? Because when it would be imported it would keep the history in tact?

Best,
[[User:Abigor|'''<font color="dark red">Huib</font>''']]<small>[[User_talk:Abigor|''<font color="black"> talk</font>'']]</small> 16:34, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

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Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki Babel

Update requests

For minor update, use m:Translation requests/quick translation.

Site navigation

Honestly saying Wikimania site has better navigations than us. --- how do you think ? I am stronly ostinated by a thought non-English pages should have two kinds of navigation templates: one for interlang, one for all major pages in that language. But I have no idea what kind of dispositions will be best. (Top, side, or bottom ...) --Aphaea 19:29, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

... and special skin like Wikimania, with some boxes, separated following topics ...--Aphaea 22:29, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • salut ;D i saw a "map site" somewhere, around a corner... mais bon, ce n'est pas le problème . Alvaro

Miscellaneous

Active users I contacted about this: Angela, Anthere, Aphaia, Datrio, Delphine, Jimbo, Kurt Jansson, Michael Snow, Solensean, Suisui, Vipuser.

Ok, it's time to take a break and to sit down at the Babel!

I've edited many pages to fix small things (see below), but above all, I built an inventory of the web site. I think we ought to clean up this wiki or it will be as messy as Meta soon :) There are.. many pages to be deleted, many pages to be categorized, many pages to be enhanced. See my inventory for the details, and also my proposals about some specific points. I asked Angela, Anthere and Michael about the possibility to be admin here, so at least someone (who has time and will) can take care of the website. Basically, I volunteer for the maintenance of the wiki (check wether translations are up to date and monitor Meta related stuff, check that templates are used in the good way, delete orphaned, enhance pages, contact new translators and so on) o/ Just ask :)

Concerning the small things:

  • working on categorization (lang cats, then usual cats by themes)
  • enhanced accessibility by improving the lang templates (can do more, but must be able to edit monobook.css easily)
  • updated/synched with english many French pages
  • and more to come btw :)

It would be great for me to have comment on the inventory, so I know what to do with (almost) each page. Jd 00:48, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it better than it was. But, I have a question. Why can't we link languages just like wikia:? at there, you can link other languages just same as a interwiki link and it is the most natural way to whom uses wikipedia/wikimedia projects. I want to remove those ugly language links from top of the every pages except home.--Suisui 12:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC) I mean, we need [[wikipedia:en:something]] but we dont need [[en:something]] link to wikipedia:en: from here--Suisui 12:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I started something like the Wikia system, for example Category:English and Category:Français. The main category (say, English) gathers all English written pages, and the sub-categories organize those pages within thematic blocks.
One thing we must take into consideration is that many pages are available on English only (or have a poor translation so the English version is useful, or the English version is the official one (policies)). Thus, lang templates are often useful (even if, as you remind me on irc, japanese speakers often speak 日本語 only and are not interested with the English original text :). Translations issues affect old pages but also pages to come, since Meta translation process is freezed for many languages. So throwing away (all or any, don't know yet) lang templates may be an overreaction, IMO. jd  13:38, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Look 'n feel

You've talked about the design some weeks months ago. What do you think of the website looking (a bit more) like a "static" website? I mean, we might get rid of the traditionnal monobook stylesheet and have the wiki wearing a nicer, fancier, smarter skin which would fit both the wiki spirit and more traditionnal needs. I don't think the toolbox and all the edit, historyneeded, as talk pages, blabla stuff is needed by readers, since this wiki is in fact a "legal front", with few updates. If I'm right, we can have MediaWiki to hide those wiki elements to the anonymous users (and have them coming out again for registered contributors who need them to edit pages). If you think a good idea all this is, I can draft out a stylesheet :) Jd 00:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please do, absolutely. And it might be a good idea to limit the pages which should exist in translations to a minimum which can be updated. It shows the foundation in a bad light if more than half of the content of this wiki here is outdated. --Elian 22:39, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You told me something like of http://www.mozilla.org would be nice (something "clean"). What do others think? jd  23:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think the same. Go on, please. -- Akl 22:40, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Totally agree. Go ahead. Also arguments on the above around language links are better to be considered much than before. Commons features this already. --Aphaea 10:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know about the skin, but one annoying feature that should be removed is the [edit] link at every section for non-registered users, it gets their hopes up, just to be squashed by the site-feedback message.--Dami 19:20, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Perhaps we can deal with such removal in css ... but I don't know how to. We can insert NOSECTIONEDIT instead. --Aphaea 19:34, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You should add .editsection {display:none;} to MediaWiki:Common.css. MaxSem 19:40, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This has been added by Bastique. Cbrown1023 talk 21:44, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If you would like to still see the section edit links, add .editsection { display:inline !important; } to your personal .css. Cbrown1023 talk 00:20, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, I've removed the .editsection hiding code. Users who are not logged in should not have edit sections links at all, so there should be nothing to hide. And hiding them for logged-in users just causes headaches on pages like this one. --MZMcBride 21:54, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, now they don't have those edit section links, it didn't used to be that way. Cbrown1023 talk 22:03, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm so 3008, you're so 2000-and-late. --MZMcBride 22:43, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello all --

HTML Tidy has been disabled on this wiki due to issues with Tidy stripping out <style> tags inside <html> tags.

HTML Tidy runs on nearly all Wikimedia wikis. It cleans up HTML, usually closing unclosed <div>s or <span>s and making the code safer in general (and less likely to break the rest of the page content if poor code is input by the user).

After being disabled and as the cache has begun to re-generate, some poor code is now becoming visible in normal page output. For example, Home began displaying <div style="clear:both" /> in several places because Tidy is no longer correcting this poor code (div's and span's both require closing tags and cannot be self-closed, at least in some versions of HTML). The Job openings page had a similar issue where it was using </div>, but not <div>.

If you see any pages now displaying incorrectly with no recent changes (in the page history) to the underlying code, the disablement of Tidy is likely the cause. Please note issues here so that they may be corrected on the entire site and not just as people notice them.

Thanks. --MZMcBride 09:54, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Audit committee has these issues. - Rjd0060 02:14, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I can't see what you're talking about. Which part of the text shows the </div>s? --MZMcBride 21:52, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It was on the complete bottem of the page, seems to have left now :) Huib talk 22:25, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All users now able to edit MediaWiki namespace

Per the resolution of bug 21469, all (registered) users are now able to edit the MediaWiki namespace. --MZMcBride 20:02, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

TransWiki

Hello,

I am wondering, the WMF sites supports the transwiki function but is there a special reason why we just copy paste the translations to here? Because when it would be imported it would keep the history in tact?

Best, Huib talk 16:34, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]