Legal talk:Wikimedia Foundation Board Handbook/Archive 1

Translation?

Hi!

Is this stable enough to be marked for translation? :)

Cheers, Jean-Fred (talk) 00:14, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jean-Frederic. This version is the final one for now; however, we will be updating probably once every 3-6 months, as the Board's processes change or new topics need to be addressed. Cheers, Geoff Geoffbrigham (talk) 00:25, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Jean-Fred, there's a lot of proofreading to do, maybe we can make a pass first. --Nemo 08:32, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Geoff: Thanks for the answer. An update every 3-6 months update is manageable I think.

Nemo: Sure (I won’t have any time soon to follow up on this anyway :-)

Jean-Fred (talk) 09:03, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Links to Meta

Links to Meta appear to follow semi-random methods: meta:/m: interwiki links, internal links, external links. If this document needs to be interoperable on multiple wikis, we can use the "m" prefix which is designed for that purpose; otherwise, let's please use internal links. --Nemo 17:10, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello @Nemo bis: the document must be interoperable, so the "m" prefix is preferred. Thanks for checking! Stephen LaPorte (WMF) (talk) 17:16, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

"non-member officers participate in Board meetings"

Needs a source. Also, "participate" is too generic a term. --Nemo 17:13, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Votes deprecated?

Does the current text mean that "votes" will no longer be used? That was an old question of mine ("Only resolutions seem to exist"). --Nemo 17:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Board books

Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_Handbook#Actions_at_Board_meetings, "meeting minutes should be approved, certified and included in the Board books": needs to cover when resolutions' and minutes' text (including votes) becomes final and can no longer be changed by board members or others. --Nemo 17:50, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Required majorities

I'm happy to see that now "abstention" can only mean "recusal" as necessary. I don't understand where the part about "missing" went though, because everyone present votes "yes" by default but I don't see a procedure to re-check the number of attendees. --Nemo 17:50, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Guiding principles

The paragraph about Wikimedia Foundation Guiding Principles is a mess: the items don't follow the same order; sometimes they're just the first sentence of a section; sometimes they are the first sentence with some subtle differences; sometimes they appear to be a cherry-picked summary of a section. This makes this part hard to maintain and even harder to translate. I suggest to either

• remove this paragraph entirely, just link the actual page and bold the most important parts there directly if needed for readability, or
• transclude the relevant excerpts via mw:LST so that we don't need to retranslate (and hence check consistency) everything.

--Nemo 12:48, 28 December 2013 (UTC)