Legal talk:Wikimedia Foundation Board Handbook/Archive 1

Translation?

Hi!

Is this stable enough to be marked for translation? :)

Cheers, Jean-Fred (talk) 00:14, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jean-Frederic. This version is the final one for now; however, we will be updating probably once every 3-6 months, as the Board's processes change or new topics need to be addressed. Cheers, Geoff Geoffbrigham (talk) 00:25, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Jean-Fred, there's a lot of proofreading to do, maybe we can make a pass first. --Nemo 08:32, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Geoff: Thanks for the answer. An update every 3-6 months update is manageable I think.

Nemo: Sure (I won’t have any time soon to follow up on this anyway :-)

Jean-Fred (talk) 09:03, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Links to Meta

Links to Meta appear to follow semi-random methods: meta:/m: interwiki links, internal links, external links. If this document needs to be interoperable on multiple wikis, we can use the "m" prefix which is designed for that purpose; otherwise, let's please use internal links. --Nemo 17:10, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello @Nemo bis: the document must be interoperable, so the "m" prefix is preferred. Thanks for checking! Stephen LaPorte (WMF) (talk) 17:16, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Done I think. --Nemo 12:49, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

"non-member officers participate in Board meetings"

Needs a source. Also, "participate" is too generic a term. --Nemo 17:13, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Votes deprecated?

Does the current text mean that "votes" will no longer be used? That was an old question of mine ("Only resolutions seem to exist"). --Nemo 17:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Board books

Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_Handbook#Actions_at_Board_meetings, "meeting minutes should be approved, certified and included in the Board books": needs to cover when resolutions' and minutes' text (including votes) becomes final and can no longer be changed by board members or others. --Nemo 17:50, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Required majorities

I'm happy to see that now "abstention" can only mean "recusal" as necessary. I don't understand where the part about "missing" went though, because everyone present votes "yes" by default but I don't see a procedure to re-check the number of attendees. --Nemo 17:50, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Guiding principles

The paragraph about Wikimedia Foundation Guiding Principles is a mess: the items don't follow the same order; sometimes they're just the first sentence of a section; sometimes they are the first sentence with some subtle differences; sometimes they appear to be a cherry-picked summary of a section. This makes this part hard to maintain and even harder to translate. I suggest to either

• remove this paragraph entirely, just link the actual page and bold the most important parts there directly if needed for readability, or
• transclude the relevant excerpts via mw:LST so that we don't need to retranslate (and hence check consistency) everything.

--Nemo 12:48, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

"questions relating to your role as a member of the Board"

Weird passage: "feel free to ask: [...] The Chair, Vice-Chair, or Executive Director for questions relating to your role as a member of the Board". The role of the board is determined by (the law and) the board itself, moreover the ED has an obvious conflict of interest. Only chair and vice-chair are relevant and appropriate here. --Nemo 12:55, 28 December 2013 (UTC)