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== Approval for the Wikimedia Foundation’s Revised Terms of Use ==

Under the Board Resolution: [[Resolution:Delegation of policy-making authority|Delegation of Policy-Making Authority]], the Wikimedia Board of Trustees delegated the authority to adopt, alter, and revoke policies to the Executive Director (Chief Executive Officer), who may further delegate such authority to the Wikimedia staff as they deem appropriate. We confirm that the update, posted on June 1, 2023 to become effective June 7, 2023, was approved by the Executive Director and General Counsel. [[User:RStallman (WMF)|RStallman (WMF)]] ([[User talk:RStallman (WMF)|talk]]) 22:46, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

:Thank you, this is approved. [[User:MIskander-WMF|MIskander-WMF]] ([[User talk:MIskander-WMF|talk]]) 20:59, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
:I'm confirming that the revised Terms of Use were approved under the delegation resolution on on May 23, 2023. [[User:Slaporte (WMF)|Slaporte (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Slaporte (WMF)|talk]]) 15:30, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

== Incorrect numbering of API Terms section ==
{{edit request|answered=yes}}
Hello, the "13. API Terms" section is likely incorrectly numbered, given that it is directly after "11. Resolutions and Project Policies" and directly before "13. Termination". The [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation Legal department/2023 ToU updates/Proposed update#12. API Terms|draft version]] titles it "12. API Terms". [[User:Coolclawcat|Coolclawcat]] ([[User talk:Coolclawcat|talk]]) 04:09, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

:{{done}} thank you! [[User:RamzyM (WMF)|RamzyM (WMF)]] ([[User talk:RamzyM (WMF)|talk]]) 15:30, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

== Official announcement ==

I have not seen any official announcement on wikimediafoundation.org and maillist about the updated ToU become effective June 7, 2023. Any announcement will be published? Thanks. [[User:SCP-2000|SCP-2000]] ([[User talk:SCP-2000|talk]]) 01:35, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

:Great question. A Diff post about what the CC 4.0 piece means to users is being prepared to go out either possibly the week after next. There's a slight wait on that because some of the technical changes for CC4.0 still need to propagate because of server update schedules. That would also be one place the effective date would be mentioned.
:I can't fully confirm where-else it may be mentioned. But to try to address @[[User:William Graham|William Graham]], I don't think it will be mentioned in a banner or all-user-notification.
:Finally, I'll look into your bullet points on "broken" things. It may be one of those things that still hasn't propagated, but just as likely, it may be simple error. I'll investigate within the next day or two. [[User:SSpalding (WMF)|SSpalding (WMF)]] ([[User talk:SSpalding (WMF)|talk]]) 19:55, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
::Just following on Shaun's note above. Yes, there will be a note going out shortly to wikimediaannounce-l. The community discussion and the draft final update that was proposed for the approvals listed here are also [[metawiki:Wikimedia_Foundation_Legal_department/2023_ToU_updates|available on meta where we were holding the consultation]]. - [[User:Jrogers (WMF)|Jrogers (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Jrogers (WMF)|talk]]) 20:48, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
I came here to ask the same question. I noticed page edits on WM projects now state a CC BY-SA 4.0 license. Will there be notifications on all project sites?
I will also note some broken things on Commons:
* the edit page has a red link to the CC 4.0 license.
* [[Commons:Ownership of pages and files]] refers to the 3.0 license.
-- [[User:William Graham|William Graham]] ([[User talk:William Graham|talk]]) 01:53, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

== None changed content with CC-BY-SA 3.0 ==

Hi
If I create the context under CC-BY-SA 3.0, so the identical content (none change[1]) You don't can share under CC-BY-SA 4.0.
Ok, maybe, You can use the fair-use, but what, when the country is not fair-use?
Are you storing the data in none-fair-use legislative countries?
Dušan Kreheľ
[1] But with append space would be then the adaptation.<br> [[User:Dušan Kreheľ|Dušan Kreheľ]] ([[User talk:Dušan Kreheľ|talk]]) 10:09, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Dušan Kreheľ|Dušan Kreheľ]]: FYI: [[:m:Terms of use/Creative Commons 4.0/Legal note#Mechanism for the upgrade]]. [[User:SCP-2000|SCP-2000]] ([[User talk:SCP-2000|talk]]) 16:47, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
::@[[User:SCP-2000|SCP-2000]]: I know. My last edit of page [[:m:User:Dušan_Kreheľ]] was under CC BY-SA 3.0. So why [[:m:User:Dušan_Kreheľ?export=raw]] is under CC BY-SA 4.0? That would be under CC BY-SA 3.0. Why not so? You look u [[:de:Wikipedia:Kurier]] and section "Wenn CC BY-SA 3.0 → CC BY-SA 4.0 verboten ist".
::You link write about adaptations, but about none original unchanges pages. [[User:Dušan Kreheľ|Dušan Kreheľ]] ([[User talk:Dušan Kreheľ|talk]]) 17:47, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

== [Report] Detect violations of CC BY-SA 3.0 in WMF projects ==

I would like inform about the report a violation of the CC BY-SA 3.0 license in projects[1] of the WMF Foundation[2]. This state was created by the process of changing the license from CC BY-SA 3.0 to CC BY-SA 4.0. The violation report is available at: https://krehel.sk/Porusovanie_CC_BY-SA_3.0/ (Slovak).

[1] https://www.wikipedia.org/<br>
[2] https://wikimediafoundation.org/

P.S.: The report was reported to legal@wikimedia.org.<br> [[User:Dušan Kreheľ|Dušan Kreheľ]] ([[User talk:Dušan Kreheľ|talk]]) 21:20, 10 June 2023 (UTC), --[[User:Dušan Kreheľ|Dušan Kreheľ]] ([[User talk:Dušan Kreheľ|talk]]) 07:40, 16 June 2023 (UTC), --[[User:Dušan Kreheľ|Dušan Kreheľ]] ([[User talk:Dušan Kreheľ|talk]]) 07:42, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

:See [[m:Terms of use/Creative Commons 4.0/FAQ#How can we "upgrade" the license?]]: ''Revisions of pages before the upgrade to the 4.0 version will continue to be available under the version 3.0 of the license.'' [[User:Tranminh360|Tranminh360]] ([[User talk:Tranminh360|talk]]) 13:20, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
::@[[User:Tranminh360|Tranminh360]]: It is not stated anywhere in writing with the licensed content as far as I know. [[User:Dušan Kreheľ|Dušan Kreheľ]] ([[User talk:Dušan Kreheľ|talk]]) 13:44, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

== Broken link ==

{{Edit request|answered=yes}}
I think the link for Robot policy should point to [[wikitech:Robot policy]], [[wikitech:Robot Policy]] does not exist. --[[User:Ameisenigel|Ameisenigel]] ([[User talk:Ameisenigel|talk]]) 20:03, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

:Good catch! Thank you! Link updated. --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 21:36, 14 June 2023 (UTC)


== [Report] Detect violations of GFDL in WMF projects ==
== [Report] Detect violations of GFDL in WMF projects ==
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:@[[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]]: Apologies for the delay. I have created the redirect: [[Policy:PAID]]. However, I am unable to link it to [[d:Q4663309]] as I get an error about the page the redirect is pointing to already being linked. I am not sure that you can link redirects to Wikidata - but I am not an expert on that - so open to input or others finishing the task. --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 19:04, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]]: Apologies for the delay. I have created the redirect: [[Policy:PAID]]. However, I am unable to link it to [[d:Q4663309]] as I get an error about the page the redirect is pointing to already being linked. I am not sure that you can link redirects to Wikidata - but I am not an expert on that - so open to input or others finishing the task. --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 19:04, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
:: {{ping|GVarnum-WMF}} yeah, seems you now can't link redirects from Wikidata. I think that's a change from a couple of years ago. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ([[User talk:Jmabel|talk]]) 20:54, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
::: {{ping|Jmabel}} Hmmm - what do you think of a Disambig page? Something like [[Legal:Digital Millennium Copyright Act]] but specific to paid editing? Probably house it at [[Policy:Paid editing]]. Alternatively, go in "Conflict of interest" wording to match the Wikidata entry? ----[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 21:19, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
:::: {{ping|GVarnum-WMF}} I'm open to any reasonable solution. Just to be clear what the actual problem is that I was trying to solve: the global policy expressed here is currently not linked in the obvious manner to the item that covers the policies for each individual Wikipedia or other wiki. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ([[User talk:Jmabel|talk]]) 21:41, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]]: How about these [[Legal:Conflict of interest|two]] [[d:Special:Diff/2024886216|edits]] - do those work for achieving this goal? --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 23:31, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::: {{ping|GVarnum-WMF}} Looks good to me. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ([[User talk:Jmabel|talk]]) 23:38, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]]: Great - thank you for the feedback and suggestion! --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 23:47, 5 December 2023 (UTC)


== Terms not displaying correctly on mobile ==
== Terms not displaying correctly on mobile ==


On the mobile version of the wiki, the sections in yellow are displayed only if the section 13 is opened, as if they were its subsections. I don't know if this is a bug in Mediawiki, but the terms should be fixed immediately, as the sections which are supposed to be more visible are actually made less visible. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 13:01, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
On the mobile version of the wiki, the sections in yellow are displayed only if the section 13 is opened, as if they were its subsections. I don't know if this is a bug in Mediawiki, but the terms should be fixed immediately, as the sections which are supposed to be more visible are actually made less visible. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 13:01, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]]: Thank you for reporting this issue. I believe it should now be fixed, but please let me know if you are still experiencing issues. Thank you! --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 03:26, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

== Does ToU require that Wikiprojects update license? ==

On [[:n:Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy#Update_of_license]] there is a discussion if Wikinews have to update to CC-BY-SA-4.0 or if it is okay to keep using CC-BY-2.5 or another license.

Perhaps someone from WMF could have a look and clarify if the ToU require that license is updated or not? --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 10:04, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:MGA73|MGA73]]: FYI: [[Policy_talk:Terms_of_Use/Archive_2#Wikinews,_marketing_company_mediation]] {{tq|''The default move to CC BY SA 4.0 would not affect any project that expressly chooses to have a different licensing scheme [...] Wikinews and Wikidata's communities will keep their bespoke licensing schemes unless the communities choose otherwise.''}} [[User:SCP-2000|SCP-2000]] ([[User talk:SCP-2000|talk]]) 17:26, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

:: Okay thank you! --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 09:43, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

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[Report] Detect violations of GFDL in WMF projects

I would like inform about the report a violation of the GFDL license in projects[1] of the WMF Foundation[2]. The violation report is available at: https://krehel.sk/krehel.sk/Porusovanie_GFDL/ (Slovak).

[1] https://www.wikipedia.org/
[2] https://wikimediafoundation.org/

Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 07:42, 16 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

[Article] Fixing violations of CC BY-SA 3.0 and GFDL licenses" (Slovak)

A new document was created, which is less "legal" and more "practical". It is about "Fixing violations of CC BY-SA 3.0 and GFDL licenses" (Slovak). Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 07:34, 14 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Can we get (or is there already) a redirect to Policy:Terms of Use#paid-contrib-disclosure, which could be handled as an interwiki link from project:Conflict of interest (Q4663309)? Please ping me if replying, I don't maintain a watchlist on this wiki. - Jmabel (talk) 01:53, 10 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Jmabel: Apologies for the delay. I have created the redirect: Policy:PAID. However, I am unable to link it to d:Q4663309 as I get an error about the page the redirect is pointing to already being linked. I am not sure that you can link redirects to Wikidata - but I am not an expert on that - so open to input or others finishing the task. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 19:04, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
@GVarnum-WMF: yeah, seems you now can't link redirects from Wikidata. I think that's a change from a couple of years ago. - Jmabel (talk) 20:54, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Jmabel: Hmmm - what do you think of a Disambig page? Something like Legal:Digital Millennium Copyright Act but specific to paid editing? Probably house it at Policy:Paid editing. Alternatively, go in "Conflict of interest" wording to match the Wikidata entry? ----Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 21:19, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
@GVarnum-WMF: I'm open to any reasonable solution. Just to be clear what the actual problem is that I was trying to solve: the global policy expressed here is currently not linked in the obvious manner to the item that covers the policies for each individual Wikipedia or other wiki. - Jmabel (talk) 21:41, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Jmabel: How about these two edits - do those work for achieving this goal? --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 23:31, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
@GVarnum-WMF: Looks good to me. - Jmabel (talk) 23:38, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Jmabel: Great - thank you for the feedback and suggestion! --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 23:47, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Terms not displaying correctly on mobile

On the mobile version of the wiki, the sections in yellow are displayed only if the section 13 is opened, as if they were its subsections. I don't know if this is a bug in Mediawiki, but the terms should be fixed immediately, as the sections which are supposed to be more visible are actually made less visible. Janhrach (talk) 13:01, 14 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Janhrach: Thank you for reporting this issue. I believe it should now be fixed, but please let me know if you are still experiencing issues. Thank you! --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 03:26, 6 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Does ToU require that Wikiprojects update license?

On n:Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy#Update_of_license there is a discussion if Wikinews have to update to CC-BY-SA-4.0 or if it is okay to keep using CC-BY-2.5 or another license.

Perhaps someone from WMF could have a look and clarify if the ToU require that license is updated or not? --MGA73 (talk) 10:04, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

@MGA73: FYI: Policy_talk:Terms_of_Use/Archive_2#Wikinews,_marketing_company_mediation The default move to CC BY SA 4.0 would not affect any project that expressly chooses to have a different licensing scheme [...] Wikinews and Wikidata's communities will keep their bespoke licensing schemes unless the communities choose otherwise. SCP-2000 (talk) 17:26, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Okay thank you! --MGA73 (talk) 09:43, 17 December 2023 (UTC)Reply