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== Can this site be classified as semi-fishbowl == |
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== Update requests == |
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*[[m:Translation requests]] |
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As unregistered users cannot edit or translate anything and registered users only have ablity to edit talk pages and user pages, and translating content, also creating an account is disabled. Can this wiki be considered "semi-fishbowl"? [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit|talk]]) 20:03, 10 November 2023 (UTC) |
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For minor update, use [[m:Translation requests/quick translation]]. |
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:@[[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]]: Can you elaborate? Considered for what purpose and where? --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 03:28, 6 December 2023 (UTC) |
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== Site navigation == |
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Honestly saying [http://wikimania.wikimedia.org Wikimania site] has better navigations than us. --- how do you think ? I am stronly ostinated by a thought non-English pages should have two kinds of navigation templates: one for interlang, one for all major pages in that language. But I have no idea what kind of dispositions will be best. (Top, side, or bottom ...) --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaea]] 19:29, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC) |
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== Translations of [[Board meetings]] == |
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... and special skin like Wikimania, with some boxes, separated following topics ...--[[User:Aphaia|Aphaea]] 22:29, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC) |
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*salut ;D i saw a "map site" somewhere, around a corner... mais bon, ce n'est pas le problème . [[User:Alvaro|Alvaro]] |
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There seems to be a problem with the section titles for translations of this page. --[[User:Ameisenigel|Ameisenigel]] ([[User talk:Ameisenigel|talk]]) 11:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Miscellaneous == |
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<div class="divlang">'''Active users I contacted about this:''' Angela, Anthere, Aphaia, Datrio, Delphine, Jimbo, Kurt Jansson, Michael Snow, Solensean, Suisui, Vipuser.</div> |
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:@[[User:Ameisenigel|Ameisenigel]]: Thank you for letting us know! This has now been fixed. --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 19:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC) |
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Ok, it's time to take a break and to sit down at the Babel! |
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== Request for translation administrator rights == |
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I've edited many pages to fix small things (see below), but above all, I built '''[[User:Jd/Inventory|an inventory]]''' of the web site. I think we ''ought'' to clean up this wiki or it will be as messy as Meta soon :) There are.. many pages to be deleted, many pages to be categorized, many pages to be enhanced. See my inventory for the details, and also my [[User:Jd/Proposal|proposals]] about some specific points. I asked Angela, Anthere and Michael about the possibility to be admin here, so at least someone (who has time and will) can take care of the website. Basically, I volunteer for the maintenance of the wiki (check wether translations are up to date and monitor Meta related stuff, check that templates are used in the good way, delete orphaned, enhance pages, contact new translators and so on) o/ Just ask :) |
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Hi, I have been cleaning up some vandalism in my capacity as a global sysop. Since I am not a translation admin here, I am not able to delete translated pages (like [[Agenda:2016-04-22/bm]], not a translation). Therefore I request translation administrator rights according to the [[Wikimedia:Accounts policy]]. Thanks, --[[User:Ameisenigel|Ameisenigel]] ([[User talk:Ameisenigel|talk]]) 09:11, 3 March 2024 (UTC) |
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Concerning the small things: |
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* working on categorization (lang cats, then usual cats by themes) |
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* enhanced accessibility by [[User:Jd/Proposal/LangCSS|improving the lang templates]] (can do more, but must be able to edit monobook.css easily) |
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* updated/synched with english many French pages |
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* and more to come btw :) |
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:@[[User:Ameisenigel|Ameisenigel]]: Thank you for your help! I have gone ahead and setup these rights. Thank you again! --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 22:20, 4 March 2024 (UTC) |
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It would be great for me to have comment on the inventory, so I know what to do with (almost) each page. [[User:Jd|Jd]] 00:48, 8 August 2006 (UTC) |
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== LincolnBot broke [[Template:Decade years navbox]] == |
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: I think it better than it was. But, I have a question. Why can't we link languages just like [[wikia:]]? at there, you can link other languages just same as a interwiki link and it is the most natural way to whom uses wikipedia/wikimedia projects. I want to remove those ugly language links from top of the every pages except home.--[[User:Suisui|Suisui]] 12:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC) I mean, we need <nowiki>[[wikipedia:en:something]]</nowiki> but we dont need <nowiki>[[en:something]]</nowiki> link to wikipedia:en: from here--[[User:Suisui|Suisui]] 12:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC) |
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::I started something like the Wikia system, for example [[:Category:English]] and [[:Category:Français]]. The main category (say, English) gathers all English written pages, and the sub-categories organize those pages within thematic blocks. |
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::One thing we must take into consideration is that many pages are available on English only (or have a poor translation so the English version is useful, or the English version is the official one (policies)). Thus, lang templates are often useful (even if, as you remind me on irc, japanese speakers often speak 日本語 only and are not interested with the English original text :). Translations issues affect old pages but also pages to come, since Meta translation process is freezed for many languages. So throwing away (all or any, don't know yet) lang templates may be an overreaction, IMO. [[User:Jd|jd]] [[User_talk:Jd|❂]] 13:38, 9 August 2006 (UTC) |
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In [[Special:Diff/361758]] LincolnBot changed the "cat_prefix" parameter to "cat prefix" in [[Template:Decade years navbox]]. Note "cat_suffix" was not changed. By changing the parameter, [[Template:DMCA category by year]] (which uses the "cat_prefix" parameter) no longer links to the correct categories. For example, as of 27 March 2024 if you go to [[:Category:DMCA 2023]] you'll see that in the DMCA category by year nav box that "2022" no longer links to [[:Category:DMCA 2022]], it instead is linking to [[:Category:2022]]. This is because the template [[Template:Decade years navbox]] is no longer recognizing the prefix passed in by [[Template:DMCA category by year]]. —[[User:RP88|RP88]] ([[User talk:RP88|talk]]) 19:25, 1 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Look 'n feel == |
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:@[[User:RP88|RP88]]: This has been fixed - apologies for the error - and thank you for the alert! --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 19:49, 1 April 2024 (UTC) |
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You've talked about the design some <s>weeks</s> months ago. What do you think of the website looking (a bit more) like a "static" website? I mean, we might get rid of the traditionnal monobook stylesheet and have the wiki wearing a nicer, fancier, smarter skin which would fit both the wiki spirit and more traditionnal needs. I don't think the toolbox and all the edit, <s>history</s><small>needed, as talk pages</small>, blabla stuff is needed by readers, since this wiki is in fact a "legal front", with few updates. If I'm right, we can have MediaWiki to hide those wiki elements to the anonymous users (and have them coming out again for registered contributors who need them to edit pages). If you think a good idea ''all this'' is, I can draft out a stylesheet :) [[User:Jd|Jd]] 00:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC) |
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:Please do, absolutely. And it might be a good idea to limit the pages which should exist in translations to a minimum which can be updated. It shows the foundation in a bad light if more than half of the content of this wiki here is outdated. --[[User:Elian|Elian]] 22:39, 9 August 2006 (UTC) |
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::You told me something like of http://www.mozilla.org would be nice (something "clean"). What do others think? [[User:Jd|jd]] [[User_talk:Jd|❂]] 23:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC) |
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:::I think the same. Go on, please. -- [[User:Akl|Akl]] 22:40, 12 August 2006 (UTC) |
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::::Totally agree. Go ahead. Also arguments on the above around language links are better to be considered much than before. Commons features this already. --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaea]] 10:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== [[Module:No globals]] == |
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I don't know about the skin, but one annoying feature that should be removed is the [edit] link at every section for non-registered users, it gets their hopes up, just to be squashed by the site-feedback message.--[[User:Bdamokos|Dami]] 19:20, 18 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:Agreed. Perhaps we can deal with such removal in css ... but I don't know how to. We can insert NOSECTIONEDIT instead. --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaea]] 19:34, 18 December 2006 (UTC) |
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::You should add <tt>.editsection {display:none;}</tt> to [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]. [[User:MaxSem|MaxSem]] 19:40, 6 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:::This has been added by Bastique. '''[[User:Cbrown1023|<span style="color:green">Cbrown1023</span>]]''' '''<small>[[User talk:Cbrown1023|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]]</small>''' 21:44, 1 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:::If you would like to still see the section edit links, add <code>.editsection { display:inline !important; }</code> to [[Special:Mypage/monobook.css|your personal .css]]. '''[[User:Cbrown1023|<span style="color:green">Cbrown1023</span>]]''' '''<small>[[User talk:Cbrown1023|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]]</small>''' 00:20, 14 April 2008 (UTC) |
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If I read the [[w:Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 October 29#Module:No globals|en.wikipedia TfD discussion]] correctly, the function of this module has replaced by [[mw:Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#strict|strict]] library of [[mw:Extension:Scribunto|Scribunto extension]], and as it has no [[special:whatlinkshere/Module:No globals|linked-in pages]], do we really need a reason to keep it? [[User:Liuxinyu970226|Liuxinyu970226]] ([[User talk:Liuxinyu970226|talk]]) 03:34, 6 April 2024 (UTC) |
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For the record, I've removed the .editsection hiding code. Users who are not logged in should not have edit sections links at all, so there should be nothing to hide. And hiding them for logged-in users just causes headaches on pages like this one. --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] 21:54, 6 November 2009 (UTC) |
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:Yeah, ''now'' they don't have those edit section links, it didn't used to be that way. '''[[User:Cbrown1023|<span style="color:green">Cbrown1023</span>]]''' '''<small>[[User talk:Cbrown1023|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]]</small>''' 22:03, 6 November 2009 (UTC) |
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== [[w:HTML Tidy|HTML Tidy]] == |
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[[w:HTML Tidy|HTML Tidy]] has been [http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/index.php?diff=23400&oldid=23397&diffonly=1 disabled] on this wiki due to issues with Tidy stripping out <tt><style></tt> tags inside <tt><html></tt> tags. |
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After being disabled and as the cache has begun to re-generate, some poor code is now becoming visible in normal page output. For example, [[Home]] began displaying <tt><div style="clear:both" /></tt> in several places because Tidy is no longer correcting this poor code (div's and span's both require closing tags and cannot be self-closed, at least in some versions of HTML). The [[Job openings]] page had a similar issue where it was using <tt></div></tt>, but not <tt><div></tt>. |
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Thanks. --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] 09:54, 1 November 2009 (UTC) |
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:[[Audit committee]] has these issues. - [[User:Rjd0060|Rjd0060]] 02:14, 3 November 2009 (UTC) |
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* There is a error in [[FAQ 2009]] that says that there are to <nowiki></divs></nowiki> incorrectly placed but I cant seem to find them, maybe somebody with more experience in code want to help with that one. [[User:Abigor|'''<font color="dark red">Huib</font>''']]<small>[[User_talk:Abigor|''<font color="black"> talk</font>'']]</small> 05:52, 6 November 2009 (UTC) |
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::I can't see what you're talking about. Which part of the text shows the </div>s? --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] 21:52, 6 November 2009 (UTC) |
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:It was on the complete bottem of the page, seems to have left now :) [[User:Abigor|'''<font color="dark red">Huib</font>''']]<small>[[User_talk:Abigor|''<font color="black"> talk</font>'']]</small> 22:25, 6 November 2009 (UTC) |
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Latest revision as of 03:08, 27 April 2024
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Hello! Bonjour! ¡Hola!
The Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki Babel serves as a place where Wikimedia volunteers can discuss this site and alert administrators as needed.
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Can this site be classified as semi-fishbowl
As unregistered users cannot edit or translate anything and registered users only have ablity to edit talk pages and user pages, and translating content, also creating an account is disabled. Can this wiki be considered "semi-fishbowl"? ToadetteEdit (talk) 20:03, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- @ToadetteEdit: Can you elaborate? Considered for what purpose and where? --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 03:28, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
Translations of Board meetings
There seems to be a problem with the section titles for translations of this page. --Ameisenigel (talk) 11:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Ameisenigel: Thank you for letting us know! This has now been fixed. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 19:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
Request for translation administrator rights
Hi, I have been cleaning up some vandalism in my capacity as a global sysop. Since I am not a translation admin here, I am not able to delete translated pages (like Agenda:2016-04-22/bm, not a translation). Therefore I request translation administrator rights according to the Wikimedia:Accounts policy. Thanks, --Ameisenigel (talk) 09:11, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Ameisenigel: Thank you for your help! I have gone ahead and setup these rights. Thank you again! --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 22:20, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
In Special:Diff/361758 LincolnBot changed the "cat_prefix" parameter to "cat prefix" in Template:Decade years navbox. Note "cat_suffix" was not changed. By changing the parameter, Template:DMCA category by year (which uses the "cat_prefix" parameter) no longer links to the correct categories. For example, as of 27 March 2024 if you go to Category:DMCA 2023 you'll see that in the DMCA category by year nav box that "2022" no longer links to Category:DMCA 2022, it instead is linking to Category:2022. This is because the template Template:Decade years navbox is no longer recognizing the prefix passed in by Template:DMCA category by year. —RP88 (talk) 19:25, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- @RP88: This has been fixed - apologies for the error - and thank you for the alert! --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 19:49, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
If I read the en.wikipedia TfD discussion correctly, the function of this module has replaced by strict library of Scribunto extension, and as it has no linked-in pages, do we really need a reason to keep it? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:34, 6 April 2024 (UTC)