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-I have to say that this is one of the best-written WMF pages I've ever seen. [[User:Tony1|<span style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml"><font color="darkgreen">'''Tony'''</font >]] [[User talk:Tony1|<font color="darkgreen">(talk)</font ></span>]] 12:05, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
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-:If you mean typographically, there are a lot of uppercase vs. lowercase inconsistencies. ;-) Just kidding, [[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 07:56, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
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-The page says: "if those funds are ever exhausted, a decision will be made by WMF whether to renew the program". And if not, will at least the already granted assistance be brought to completion or could this imply interruption of assistance? This is very important to note, changing lawyer in the middle of a trial is probably not fun. --[[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 07:56, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
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-:I don't think WMF can give an openended commitment. I think the statement above is appropriate. For a case which is expected to exhaust the fund I would expect the grantee and their legal team to discuss this ahead of time with the WMF and for the WMF to take appropriate action - say to launch an appeal for donations and consider renewing the program the before the funds run out so everyone has adequate notice. [[User:Filceolaire|Filceolaire]] ([[User talk:Filceolaire|talk]]) 21:12, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
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-I want to be sure people are able to find the RFC: [[Request for comment/Legal Fees Assistance Program]] --[[User:Mdennis (WMF)|Maggie Dennis (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Mdennis (WMF)|talk]]) 12:36, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
-== Transparency ==
-Will there be a public log of who receives aid from this program and why they're receiving aid? This is probably something donors to Wikimedia would want to know about. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] ([[User talk:Michaeldsuarez|talk]]) 17:40, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
-== Payment of opposing sides fees. ==
-"This assistance will not include payment of fines or damages,". What about the opposing sides lawyers fees? I think it would be sensible to specifically exclude payment of those from this fund as part of some settlement.
-Part of the objective here is to make suing a WMF volunteer like attacking a hedgehog. It has excellent defences but if you finally break through those defences there is very little meat to be had. Some nutbar wants to sue and talks to a lawyer; promises the lawyer can keep all the damages provided he exacts revenge on those wikifiddlers. The lawyer does a calculation
-# What are the chances his client will run out of money?
-# What are the chances the WMF volunteer will run out of money or can't afford a lawyer
-# If you win then what are the chances the WMF volunteer can pay damages and costs?
-When they are doing this calc we want to make it look like the answer to 2 is that the WMF volunteer will fight on and never give up but the answer to 3 is that if you defeat the WMF volunteer in court then you probably won't get much. [[User:Filceolaire|Filceolaire]] ([[User talk:Filceolaire|talk]]) 21:38, 2 September 2012 (UTC)