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== Red link == |
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==Full protection overkill - contrary to wiki ethos== |
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[[User:Varnent]] added full protection in response to a bunch of IPs editing the page. This is overkill. Request semi-protection. This isn't the policy; that's on the wmf website. Also the talk header on this page is obsolete. Removed. --[[User:Elvey|Elvey]] ([[User talk:Elvey|talk]]) 20:12, 10 October 2016 (UTC) |
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:Why would the page need to be edited? Even if it isn't the policy, it seems useful if it reflects it. --<small>[[User:MF-Warburg|MF-W]]</small> 07:14, 20 October 2016 (UTC) |
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::View the page history. There are reasons this page isn't just a redirect to the WMF copy - which it would be if it always reflected it. --[[User:Elvey|Elvey]] ([[User talk:Elvey|talk]]) 07:50, 31 October 2016 (UTC) |
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:::Looking over the page history - the main reason to edit since the policy was adopted seems to be reversing vandalism. Also - transitions of this policy are linked to from some approved languages - which presents a problem for random edits/vandalism being made without at least a heads up to [[Legal|Wikimedia Foundation Legal]] - who currently has the ability to make the necessary edits. I would also point out that making an edit here would not change the main document, so you would still need to make a request. I am not sure what other edits have been made by non-admins which would require lifting this protection. Just my two cents as who put protection in place originally. :) --[[User:Varnent|Varnent]] ([[User talk:Varnent|talk]])<sup>([[User:Varnent#Conflict of Interest (COI) Disclosure|COI]])</sup> 18:29, 31 October 2016 (UTC) |
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::::All or nearly all the vandalism was by IPs. Links here aren't a problem; if they should link to the WMF version, they can be changed; this shouldn't be a high-traffic page; IMO directing traffic to the right page makes more sense than over-protecting the wrong page. Again, no demonstrated need for full-protection, which Varnent doesn't dispute; it is overkill. It's been fine without it for ages. Request semi-protection. Links to diffs of this document are not impacted by its protection status. --[[User:Elvey|Elvey]] ([[User talk:Elvey|talk]]) 01:28, 1 November 2016 (UTC) |
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:::::Apologies that my last comment did not provide you with clear enough dispute - let me try again and more directly. It is a page meant to accurately reflect an active legal policy which requires Wikimedia Foundation Legal involvement to be updated properly anyway. It is also a high-traffic page since some non-English project wikis link to Meta-Wiki page instead of Foundation-Wiki page (for translation purposes). Additionally, there remains no stated argument for why this would need to be edited often and without discussion on talk page first. As such, I suggest it remain under full-protection based on it being a legal policy page, its high traffic status (which has resulted in the past in vandalism efforts), need for discussions before changes should be made anyway, and lack of history of changes (or even requested changes) since new policy put in place. The risk around confirmed edit vandalism on such a high traffic page vs. the as yet unstated gains of removing this protection leave me confused what the argument to change it to semi-protect would be. Especially since there have not been any requests to make edits since it was protected, let alone some need created by lingering requests, and several other policy and high-traffic pages are similarly under full protection. Also, MF-W's question remains unanswered as the page history does not imply any reason why this page would be edited by non-admins. I hope that clarifies that I do indeed dispute that there is no demonstrated need for full protection status. --[[User:Varnent|Varnent]] ([[User talk:Varnent|talk]])<sup>([[User:Varnent#Conflict of Interest (COI) Disclosure|COI]])</sup> 03:12, 2 November 2016 (UTC) |
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:::::::{{not done}} No consensus. Change requests have been made. [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Privacy_policy&diff=8477641&oldid=8477467 Retained], non-admin changes have been. Discussion closed. Please do not add to this discussion.--[[User:Elvey|Elvey]] ([[User talk:Elvey|talk]]) 06:06, 2 November 2016 (UTC) |
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There is a red link in [[Policy:Privacy policy/Frequently asked questions#There is outdated or inaccurate information about me in a Wikipedia article! How do I update my information?|this section]], please change it to correct link to Privacy policy, thanks. [[User:Ата|<span style="color:SteelBlue">Ата</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Ата|<span style="color:#80A0FF">(talk)</span>]]</sup> 17:09, 14 January 2024 (UTC) |
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:@[[User:Ата|Ата]]: Thank you for pointing this out - I have gone ahead and fixed it. --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 20:39, 16 January 2024 (UTC) |
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== Interwiki to enwiki == |
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==Out of sync== |
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This page is missing the summary seen currently at https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Privacy_policy . |
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[https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Privacy_policy-summary&action=edit&redlink=1 caused by a move?] --[[User:Elvey|Elvey]] ([[User talk:Elvey|talk]]) 06:06, 2 November 2016 (UTC) |
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:I see it correctly. It was [[Special:Diff/8785714|fixed]] after that page move. [[User:Matiia|Matiia]] ([[User talk:Matiia|talk]]) 05:33, 18 December 2016 (UTC) |
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[[Policy:Privacy policy/Frequently asked questions]] has an interwiki link to [[w:en:Wikipedia:Username_policy]], which is strange. Is it intended? [[User:Ата|<span style="color:SteelBlue">Ата</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Ата|<span style="color:#80A0FF">(talk)</span>]]</sup> 17:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC) |
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==Archives incomplete - - 2014 Policy change discussion and implementation hidden== |
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This page doesn't link to discussion pages from [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Privacy_policy&diff=8796637&oldid=8785846 see here] and [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Privacy_policy&diff=7497250&oldid=7481965 here] / {{tl|PrivacyPolicy-Invitation}}. Nor does the archive page. They should, permanently.--[[User:Elvey|Elvey]] ([[User talk:Elvey|talk]]) 06:06, 2 November 2016 (UTC) |
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:@[[User:Ата|Ата]], can you elaborate on what you find odd? The linking to that specific page, the formatting of the link, or something else? Thank you! --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 20:40, 16 January 2024 (UTC) |
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== Enforcement == |
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::I find it weird that [[File:OOjs UI icon language-ltr-progressive.svg|20px]]<span style=color:#3f6fcf>1 language</span> button on top of the page links to that specific page. Privacy policy FAQs ≠ enwiki username policy. [[User:Ата|<span style="color:SteelBlue">Ата</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Ата|<span style="color:#80A0FF">(talk)</span>]]</sup> 15:29, 18 January 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Fixed! It was [https://foundation.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Policy:Privacy_policy/Frequently_asked_questions&diff=prev&oldid=310909 a mis-ordered link]. Thanks! [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 02:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC) |
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== Discusssion at en WP == |
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Who is responsible for enforcement of this policy. Regards, —[[User:Neotarf|Neotarf]] ([[User talk:Neotarf|talk]]) 18:17, 4 April 2017 (UTC) |
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:Ultimately, the relevant law enforcement authorities for privacy and/or contracts. http://ec.europa.eu/justice/data-protection/bodies/authorities/index_en.htm has some useful directories. [[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 19:35, 4 April 2017 (UTC) |
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There is a privacy related discussion on en.wiki; you can read the discussion and give advice [[w:en:Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Allowing_editors_to_opt_out_of_private_information_on_XTools.|here]]. [[User:Cremastra|Cremastra]] ([[User talk:Cremastra|talk]]) 13:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== ru link == |
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Please make [[Политика конфиденциальности]] a redirect to [[Policy:Privacy policy/ru]]. [[User:Colt browning|colt_browning]] ([[User talk:Colt browning|talk]]) 13:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:@[[User:Colt browning|Colt browning]]: That has been fixed. However, if that link is actively used anywhere - please let me know and we may be able to update its usage. Thank you! --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 20:22, 6 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== COPPA == |
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Hello. Can people under 13 edit Wikipedia? [[User:Wimajo15|Wimajo15]] ([[User talk:Wimajo15|talk]]) 08:17, 26 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:@[[User:Wimajo15|Wimajo15]]: Hello, the term of use and the privacy policy don't prevent children from editing Wikipedia. However, if you are a younger user, it is recommended reading [[:en:Wikipedia:Guidance_for_younger_editors|the Guidance for younger editors]] and [[:m:Staying safe on Wikimedia as a young person|the Staying safe on Wikimedia as a young person]] page before editing. Happy editing! [[User:SCP-2000|SCP-2000]] ([[User talk:SCP-2000|talk]]) 09:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Red link
There is a red link in this section, please change it to correct link to Privacy policy, thanks. Ата (talk) 17:09, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Ата: Thank you for pointing this out - I have gone ahead and fixed it. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 20:39, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
Interwiki to enwiki
Policy:Privacy policy/Frequently asked questions has an interwiki link to w:en:Wikipedia:Username_policy, which is strange. Is it intended? Ата (talk) 17:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Ата, can you elaborate on what you find odd? The linking to that specific page, the formatting of the link, or something else? Thank you! --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 20:40, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- I find it weird that
1 language button on top of the page links to that specific page. Privacy policy FAQs ≠ enwiki username policy. Ата (talk) 15:29, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed! It was a mis-ordered link. Thanks! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 02:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- I find it weird that
Discusssion at en WP
There is a privacy related discussion on en.wiki; you can read the discussion and give advice here. Cremastra (talk) 13:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
ru link
Please make Политика конфиденциальности a redirect to Policy:Privacy policy/ru. colt_browning (talk) 13:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Colt browning: That has been fixed. However, if that link is actively used anywhere - please let me know and we may be able to update its usage. Thank you! --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 20:22, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
COPPA
Hello. Can people under 13 edit Wikipedia? Wimajo15 (talk) 08:17, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Wimajo15: Hello, the term of use and the privacy policy don't prevent children from editing Wikipedia. However, if you are a younger user, it is recommended reading the Guidance for younger editors and the Staying safe on Wikimedia as a young person page before editing. Happy editing! SCP-2000 (talk) 09:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)