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: Same topic, though unrelated to the above point: some Australian Aboriginal groups do not like their dead to be mentioned or depicted (photographs etc.). I have seen some sites add "trigger warnings" to such pages. [[User:Equinox|Equinox]] ([[User talk:Equinox|talk]]) 18:05, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
: Same topic, though unrelated to the above point: some Australian Aboriginal groups do not like their dead to be mentioned or depicted (photographs etc.). I have seen some sites add "trigger warnings" to such pages. [[User:Equinox|Equinox]] ([[User talk:Equinox|talk]]) 18:05, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

== Vote ==
I look at the 'Timeline' section. I see more than 20 steps. But I do not see the most important - the ratification. Is any kind of vote or any other ''real'' confirmation of communities' consent is planned? What is the procedure of proposing and adopting amendments? I am a member of a ruwiki community. We have our policies on conduct. I am not quite happy with everything in it, but at least I can try to democratically change it through polls and votes (and I can). And that is the main reason, why I follow them voluntarily. Here I can't. And no my trusted representative can. Will the Code be legitimate? Dubious. Well, It can be ''enforced'' (scheduled for Dec'21). But no legitimacy can ever be gained with force. --[[User:Abiyoyo|Abiyoyo]] ([[User talk:Abiyoyo|talk]]) 15:01, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

:{{ping|Abiyoyo}} the question about ratification has been brought up several times in the [[Universal Code of Conduct/2021 consultations/Roundtable discussions|Roundtable discussions]]. As we are now waiting for the Drafting Committee to complete the Draft on Enforcement Guideline, everyone is welcome to provide their feedback on this one. [[User:RamzyM (WMF)|RamzyM (WMF)]] ([[User talk:RamzyM (WMF)|talk]]) 23:33, 22 July 2021 (UTC)


== What's the gist of UCoC? ==
== What's the gist of UCoC? ==

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Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 1

Universal Code of Conduct News
Issue 1, June 2021Read the full newsletter


Welcome to the first issue of Universal Code of Conduct News! This newsletter will help Wikimedians stay involved with the development of the new code, and will distribute relevant news, research, and upcoming events related to the UCoC.

Please note, this is the first issue of UCoC Newsletter which is delivered to all subscribers and projects as an announcement of the initiative. If you want the future issues delivered to your talk page, village pumps, or any specific pages you find appropriate, you need to subscribe here.

You can help us by translating the newsletter issues in your languages to spread the news and create awareness of the new conduct to keep our beloved community safe for all of us. Please add your name here if you want to be informed of the draft issue to translate beforehand. Your participation is valued and appreciated.

  • Affiliate consultations – Wikimedia affiliates of all sizes and types were invited to participate in the UCoC affiliate consultation throughout March and April 2021. (continue reading)
  • 2021 key consultations – The Wikimedia Foundation held enforcement key questions consultations in April and May 2021 to request input about UCoC enforcement from the broader Wikimedia community. (continue reading)
  • Roundtable discussions – The UCoC facilitation team hosted two 90-minute-long public roundtable discussions in May 2021 to discuss UCoC key enforcement questions. More conversations are scheduled. (continue reading)
  • Phase 2 drafting committee – The drafting committee for the phase 2 of the UCoC started their work on 12 May 2021. Read more about their work. (continue reading)
  • Diff blogs – The UCoC facilitators wrote several blog posts based on interesting findings and insights from each community during local project consultation that took place in the 1st quarter of 2021. (continue reading)

Respect for the dead?

Would these sort of remarks [1] be covered by this Code? It's not even worth reporting them in the local project anymore, for a combination of who the person who said it is, and the overall lack of moral standards of the community. Chancellor Gordon (talk) 16:34, 26 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Yes, I as well think it's disrespectful for the thousands of genocide victims in Canada to be called less worthy than a building accident in Florida. Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 07:43, 27 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
Same topic, though unrelated to the above point: some Australian Aboriginal groups do not like their dead to be mentioned or depicted (photographs etc.). I have seen some sites add "trigger warnings" to such pages. Equinox (talk) 18:05, 19 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

What's the gist of UCoC?

Would somebody knowledgeable about this topic be willing to answer some questions. I read the lead and a couple paragraphs and couldn't easily discern this. 1) In plain English, what problem is the UCoC trying to solve? Do some Wikis not have a strong enough harassment policy or something? 2) In plain English, what changes is an experienced editor on enwiki likely to notice after this is implemented? Will there be a different procedure for reporting a certain class of misbehavior? Will something be more strictly enforced? Please ping on replies. Thanks. –Novem Linguae (talk) 05:18, 16 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Novem Linguae: A recent interview with Maggie Dennis, (VP of Community Resilience and Sustainability) helps explain the rationale. At a basic level, the goal is to increase the feelings of contributor safety and well-being on the platforms to provide for inclusion. Community Insights surveys help to demonstrate the scope of the issue. Research did show some projects were without written conduct standards (Universal Code of Conduct/Research - Wikipedia, Universal Code of Conduct/Research - Other Wiki projects, Universal Code of Conduct/Initial 2020 Consultations).

For enwiki users, comments from experienced editors have generally pointed out the UCoC seems to be already heavily inspired by existing local policies, so there is a general feeling of not much "change" in terms of the actual expectations, though other concerns were raised (see report).

To the later questions, outlining clear enforcement pathways is the goal of the current phase, and the drafting committee is hard at work on this (see progress). Once the enforcement draft guidelines are released the proposed pathways will be more clear to us.

Hope this answers your questions somewhat. Xeno (WMF) (talk) 14:00, 16 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Basically the Foundation feels the need to impose some kind of UCoC without anyone outside of the Foundation and its processes really asking for it. There has been quite a lot of resistance, but the Foundation feels the need to press on regardless. Foundation representatives have been asked repeatedly where and when any kind of consensus was built among the active communities to implement any kind of CoC. It was pointed out that off-wiki research has shown that people were praying for a UCoC and the Foundation was merely responding to desperate inquiries. When it was pointed out that the projects and communities that build the foundation for the Foundation (no pun intended) have long established processes to record and voice their concerns and wishes they were met with silence from said representatives. It appears that neither serious inquiry nor input is wanted and the Foundation will push ahead with a UCoC regardless of the communities' wishes. There are numerous examples of where this strategy has failed, but this time it's going to work really well. --Millbart (talk) 20:02, 22 July 2021 (UTC) P.S.: I never faked a sarcasm.Reply
@Millbart: I just want to point out that the UCoC was developed out of "Provide for Safety and Inclusion" recommendation from the three-year Movement Strategy process, which involved Wikimedians from across the globe. It was not something that was created out of a thin air nor be imposed by the Foundation; if you read the recommendation closely, it clearly mandated for the UCoC to be developed "in collaboration with communities" and "with respect to context, existing local policies, as well as enforcement and conflict resolution structures", which is something that the whole process has been about and will continue to be about. RamzyM (WMF) (talk) 23:27, 22 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
I know that repeating or even pointing these things out for the first time is pointless, but I'll do so anyway, lest people think that the WMF narrative is accurate. Here's what I wrote over a year ago about the composition of the groups that drew up the 'Recommendations': "The strategy core team, made up of WMF employees, created a shortlist of 91 people (from 172) to be part of the working groups. The steering committee then chose 88 of those 91 people to be part of the working groups. So, technically, the WMF didn't choose the members of the working groups, but it directly rejected 47% of applicants, then had another committee accept 97% of the remainder." There was even a WMF statement that the WMF had decided to go ahead with a universal code of conduct before so-called on-wiki consultations about it. EddieHugh (talk) 21:39, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thx User:EddieHugh for pointing that out. 👍 ...Sicherlich Post 07:31, 5 August 2021 (UTC) yes WMF need the CoC; to "legalize" things like Superprotect and Framban. Thats why they are so eager Reply
And I suspect if there's a lot of community objection to it, it will suddenly become a "legal requirement", but they will be "unable" to tell us what law requires it. Not that that has ever happened before. Seraphimblade (talk) 07:43, 12 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Übersetzung ist zu 9 % abgeschlossen

Aktuell sind alle Übersetzungen als zu 9 % abgeschlossen markiert. Eventuell durch die Verschiebung? Eventuell wurde aber auch inhaltlich etwas geändert? So nur ersteres zutrifft kann man (jmd. der weiß wie) das Sicherlich schnell fixen, wenn nicht wäre wohl etwas mehr Arbeit die geleistet werden muß ...Sicherlich Post 07:26, 5 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Danke! phab:T287803#7262930 (fixed already, I think) Xeno (WMF) (talk) 11:04, 5 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Lack of punctuation causes confusion

The meaning of the following sentence is obscured by a lack of punctuation: "All Wikimedians should assume unless evidence otherwise exists that others are here to collaboratively improve the projects, but this should not be used to justify statements with a harmful impact."

At the very least, a pair of commas or brackets would highlight where the clause in the sentence should be. viz: "All Wikimedians should assume (unless evidence otherwise exists) that others are here to collaboratively improve the projects, but this should not be used to justify statements with a harmful impact."

I am sure it is not intended to read like this (my punctuation added): "All Wikimedians should assume, unless evidence otherwise exists that others are here to collaboratively improve the projects, but this should not be used to justify statements with a harmful impact." Unfortunately, the lack of punctuation in the original text makes the reader stumble as they try understand what is meant. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:49, 20 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Wording of UCoC on doxing

The current wording surrounding doxing in section 3.1 (Harassment) runs as follows: Disclosure of personal data (Doxing): sharing other contributors' private information, such as name, place of employment, physical or email address without their explicit consent either on the Wikimedia projects or elsewhere, or sharing information concerning their Wikimedia activity outside the projects. As worded, this prohibits users from revealing private information - but it assumes that the person doing it knows that information, and is revealing what they know to be true. Has consideration been given to whether this should explicitly extend to making assertions about someone's private information, whether accurate or not? Could/should it be rephrased to make it clear that insinuating stuff about someone's private information, or speculating about someone's real life identity, is also prohibited? I'm sure the intent is not to require a user to confirm that any doxing is accurate before action can be taken about it, but I'm a bit concerned that that might be how some people interpret it. (See this thread on Commons for some of the background to my concerns.) Girth Summit (blether) 12:29, 20 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 3

Universal Code of Conduct News
Issue 3, August 2021Read the full newsletter


Welcome to the third issue of Universal Code of Conduct News! This newsletter will help Wikimedians stay involved with the development of the new code and will distribute relevant news, research, and upcoming events related to the UCoC.

If you haven’t already, please remember to subscribe here if you would like to be notified about future editions of the newsletter, and also leave your username here if you’d like to be contacted to help with translations in the future.

  • The Enforcement Draft Guidelines - The Enforcement Draft Guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct has just been published on meta in different languages. These guidelines include some definitions of newly introduced terms and recommendations for local enforcement structures. (continue reading)
  • Enforcement Draft Guidelines Review - Before the enforcement guidelines are finalized, they must be reviewed and discussed by the community. The facilitation team has set up various discussion means throughout this review period. (continue reading)
  • Conversation Hours & Roundtables - To listen to community opinions and exchange ideas regarding enforcement draft guidelines proposed by the drafting committee, the UCoC facilitation team will be hosting weekly conversation hours. (continue reading)
  • Wikimania Wrap-up - The facilitation team hosted a Roundtable at Wikimania 2021, featuring some WMF trustees and staff. The session offered some insights on how the Enforcement Draft Guidelines came about, and what next steps are being imagined. (continue reading)
  • Translation - Because a considerable number of Wikimedians are not English speakers, and that UCoC applies to all members, projects across the wikimedia movement, it’s of a great importance to provide adequate language support throughout this process. (continue reading)
  • Diff blogs - Check out some interesting publications about the UCoC on Wikimedia Diff blog. (continue reading)
  • WMF's 2021 Board of Trustees election - Please read the Candidate Presentations and vote! (continue reading)

MNadzikiewicz (WMF) (talk) 22:21, 27 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

KISS --> 2 – Expected behaviour

I have the impression the good old KISS got lost.

"Every Wikimedian, whether they are a new or experienced editor, a community functionary, an affiliate or Wikimedia Foundation board member or employee, is responsible for their own behaviour." - really? You don't say ... if you don't mention it what does it really change?
"In all Wikimedia projects, ..." - yeah. Its said already under "1 – Introduction". - why again? Just to make really really sure? It makes the text longer without added value
"...This applies to all contributors and participants..." - again. See "1 – Introduction"
"without expectations based on age, mental or physical disabilities," - yeah. So all which is covered under "1 – Introduction" - skip it so its not changing. all means all

Thats just what I found under 2 – Expected behaviour on a quick view and I'm pretty sure there is more if one goes to the other points. ...Sicherlich Post 19:42, 14 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Too many "Universal Code of Conduct" headings

Can we remove the h1 heading and let the blue-boxed heading do its job? I really don't get what the heading is for: we don't need a heading, and we don't need the link either because it's in the ombox. --125.59.232.45 06:44, 19 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 4

Universal Code of Conduct News
Issue 4, October 2021Read the full newsletter


Welcome to the fourth issue of Universal Code of Conduct News! This newsletter will help Wikimedians stay involved with the development of the new code and will distribute relevant news, research, and upcoming events related to the UCoC.

If you haven’t already, please remember to subscribe here if you would like to be notified about future editions of the newsletter, and also leave your username here if you’d like to be contacted to help with translations in the future.

  • Enforcement Draft Guidelines Review Wrap-up - The Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Draft Guidelines Review will come to a close on 17 October 2021, after more than two months of extensive consultations. (continue reading)
  • Roundtable Discussions and Conversation Hours - Another successful roundtable session happened on September 18, 2021 to discuss the EDGR. One last conversation hour will be happening on October 15th, 2021. (continue reading)
  • Movement Charter Drafting Committee Elections - The Movement Charter Drafting Committee selection process has kicked off and will be open until October 25, 2021. Contributors to Wikimedia projects can elect their favorite candidates on to the committee. (continue reading)
  • New Direction for the Newsletter - As we round-up the consultation processes for the Universal Code of Conduct, the facilitation team is currently envisioning new directions for the newsletter. (continue reading)
  • Diff Blogs - Check out the most recent publications about the UCoC on Wikimedia Diff. (continue reading)

MNadzikiewicz (WMF) (talk) 20:27, 14 October 2021 (UTC)Reply